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The meeting was held at:Palace de Bourse (Chamber of Commerce), 9.  Rue   de la Canebière, 13002 Marseille


Those present:




Jorn Ryberg

Sweden (Industry)


Jurg Wendling

Switzerland (Medical)

Vice Chairman

Pasquale Longobardi

Italy (Medical)

Member Executive Board

Jane Bugler


Member Executive Board

Claus Mayer

Germany (Industry)

Member Executive Board

Roger O’ Kane

United Kingdom (Industry)





Roswitha Prohaska

Austria (Medical)


Roland vanden Eede

Belgium (Medical)


Marc van der Esch

Belgium (Industry)


Palle Kristensen

Denmark (Government)


K-H. Andreasen

Denmark (Industry)


Paul Gavarry

France  (Government)


Eric Albier’


For/with  Paul Gavarry

Marc Borgnetta

France (Medical)


Jean Lelievre

France (Industry)


Giovanni Esentato

Italy (Industry)

For  Adolfo Magrin

Leo Lagarde

The Netherlands (Industry)


Olav Hauso

Norway (Government)


Alf O. Brubakk

Norway (Medical)


Leif Johansen

Norway (Union)


Grzegor Bernaciak

Poland (Industry)


Carlos Barosa

Portugal (Medical)


Jordi Desola

Spain (Medical)


Staffan Littorin

Sweden (Government)


Mats Hagberg

Sweden (Medical)


Dominic Schwarb

Switzerland (Industry)


Murat Egi



Akin Savas Toklu



Chris Sherman

United Kingdom (Government)


Phil Bryson

United Kingdom (Medical)


Peter Hutchinson

United Kingdom (Industry)

For Roger O’ Kane

Alan Bax



Deric Ellerby



Christian Perriere


For Mark Caney

David G. Parkes






Vivian Le Sourd-Thebaud

French Ministry of Labour

Dag W. Wroldsen



Apologies for absence had been received from:



Petr Andrt

Czech Republic (Industry)

Pavel Makura

Czech Republic (Medical)

Michael Fricke

Germany (Government)

Wolfgang Foerster

Germany (Medical)

Frank Werner

Germany (Union)

Sergio Gambi

Italy (Government)

Walter Maas

The Netherlands (Government)

Surg. Captain van Hulst

The Netherlands (Medical)

Joar Gangenes

Norway (Industry)

Jacek Kot

Poland (Medical)

Paulo Franco

Portugal (Government)

Cengis Erenoglu

Turkey (Industry)

Captain Kesen

Turkey (Government)

Roger O’ Kane

United Kingdom (Industry)

Peter Bennett

United State of America (Corresponding member)

Note:  For technical reasons the sequence of the agenda was held in a different order than recorded below while the Minutes follow the agenda as originally announced.


A presentation of the building security arrangements, escape ways and mustering location in the event of fire was made by Eric Albier’ of the French Delegation.


The Chairman Claus Mayer opened the meeting welcoming the members to Marseille and the 2011 EDTC Meeting. He also advised the members of the sudden and unexpected death of Paul Butler, the Executive Director of the Australian Accreditation Scheme, on September 14th while attending the IDRS meeting in Marseille and invited David G. Parkes, the CEO of the Diver Certification Board of Canada to say a few words in memory of Paul. 


David G. Parkes who had known Paul Butler for a number of years and had drawn upon Paul’s expertise when setting up the Certification Board of Canada gave a short account of Paul professional life and his mild and helpful manner when requested to assist others.

The obituary was concluded by a minute’s silence in memory of Paul Butler.

4.        APPOLOGIES

Apologies had been received as stated above.


No comments had been received to Minutes from the Prague meeting and the Minutes were consequently approved as submitted.

6.        MEMBERSHIP

The Secretary presented the following changes to the membership since the last meeting:


·         Morten Mandrup, Denmark (Industry),

·         Martin Ruegger, Switzerland (Government),

·         Kemal Kesen, Turkey (Government) (Retired from service in Turkish Navy),

·         Stephen J. Watt (United Kingdom (Medical).

New members:

·         K-H. Andreasen, Denmark (Industry).Who agreed to step in again.

·         Tomi Wuorimaa, Finland (Medical),

·         Paulo Franco, Portugal (Government),

·         Dominic Schwarb , Switzerland (Government),

·         Phil Bryson, United Kingdom (Medical).

Post meeting note: The Secretary was advised that Lt. Cdr. Bekir Selcuk Gurder was now the new member representing the Turkish Government. His name has now been formally recorded in the new updated membership list.  


The following actions were recorded from previous meetings. Status of those is as follows:





Revision of Safety Guidelines.

See separate item on the agenda.


Members profile

The Secretary advised that up to now only about 15 profiles had been received and urgent members to complete the templates issued. Those that had lost or not received the template could request another copy.


Workshop in Luxemburg 2010

See status report under item 8 of the Minutes.


Cooperation with ECHM on Standards

Work now completed by the Medical Subcommittee and the new Standard subject to discussions/approval under item 10 on the agenda.


Members not responding

This meeting agreed that members not having attended any meetings for the last 10 years, and which were no longer responding to e-mail messages can be struck off the membership list. This has consequently been done and those positions marked as “Vacant” in the updated membership list.


8.        EDTC WORKSHOP 2010

The Chairman reported that he had attended a meeting with Mrs. Angelilli in Roma in company with Pasquale Longobardi, Giovanni Esentato and OC Andersen and that she had agreed to make available premises within the European Union facilities in Brussels on May 11th and 12th 2012. Facilities will be available between 1500 and 1800 on May 11th and between 0900 and 1300 on May 12th.  He also advised that arrangement had been made for a meeting in Brussels to assess the facilities and plan the event.                                    

Action: Claus Mayer

The facilities available could accommodate up to 120 persons and it was the intension to invite participation from all member countries. However, because of the total limitation of a 120 it might be necessary to limit participation from each country in order to provide equal opportunities to all member states. Collaboration with each country’s Authority would thus be sought in order to “Quality Control” and make sure that representation was maximised. 

The Workshop would focus on “Freedom of Movement” (of Diving personnel) and would primarily address onshore/inshore diving. In order to provide value for the countries EDTC was seeking to provide an opportunity for participants to make presentations stands either in the EU Commissions facility, alternatively in a nearby hotel.

Roland vanden Eede offered to assist the arrangement committee locally as he was based in Brussels.



The Chairman reported that he had spent most of the year in China, Hong Kong and Singapore dealing with tunnelling project. As there was few if any regulation available to that effect locally he had introduced the EDTC Standards to local authorities. These had in generally been well received.

Diving operations (tunnelling) had been performed based on his companies internal procedures which in addition to the EDTC Standard were build on German, HSE, IMCA and Norwegian legislation and guidelines.

Certification of Divers:

He reported that false diving certificates were circulating in the business and some schools were issuing certificates claiming to be in compliance with standards proving to be incorrect when divers holding the certificates were interviewed. There were also schools claiming to provide diver training allowing the students to work anywhere in Europe, only to find out that this was not the case when they tried to obtain employment.

The meeting was informed that EU Directive 2005/56 is being changed strengthening the right of free movement within EU and also limiting individual countries right to refuse employment of such personnel. With the current status of diving schools issuing certificates, some on behalf of national Authorities, other on behalf of an association (such as IDSA) control with diver certification would continue to be a problem and could potentially expose employer of divers to legal prosecution.

EDTC’s and the member contractors preferences had always been for diving certificates to be issued by National Authorities, or alternatively by an accredited agency on behalf of the National Authority, as this should ensure necessary control with the providers of such training (Which is already the case for many of the IDSA Schools). Standards for such trainings should also preferably be National Standards, which should be based on the EDTC high level standard, supported by a more detailed standard (such as IDSA) and amended to take into account National Requirements.

IDSA claimed to have an audit scheme in place where audits were performed by an independent IDSA member. This however still left to potential for questioning the individual’s independence and it was suggested that the scheme would be better served by employing an accredited professional third party Auditor (National Standards Organisation) assisted by Technical Auditors provided by IDSA or others, as this would improve the credibility of such audits.

Some countries (like the UK) currently publish a list of certificates acceptable to them and it was suggested that EDTC could perhaps have a similar approach. Although it was agreed that it was not EDTC’s role to identify and publish a list of acceptable certificates. It was agreed that it would be useful to collect information on diver training in EDTC member countries. As a result it was proposed by Olav Hauso that EDTC request the Government Representative for a Compliance Statement with the EDTC Standard as this would produce a useful starting point for the exercise. Eric Albier’ accepted to act as a coordinator for progressing this.                                                                   Action: Eric Albier’

In the long run the introduction of Standard applicable to all countries would have to be done through establishment of European CEN Standard (or equivalent). This would require at least another 4-5 countries to set up such working parties. This would probably best be achieved by the Government Representatives assisted by the other EDTC members, but was likely to take years to achieve. It was noted that Italy had developed an Italian diving standard.

                                                                     Action: Chairman

Petition to the EU:

The Chairman referred the petition made Mr. Longstreath addressed to all EDTC members.  The EDTC members shared the passion for the topic and agreed that not all parts of the diving industry were sufficiently regulated and/or that regulations wear not being adhered to by all contractors and individuals engaged in parts of the industry.

The EDTC were currently planning a conference for May 2012 in Brussels, Belgium, where inland/inshore regulations across Europe would be the topic.

EDTC standards had been published and a number of European countries had actually adopted the standards into their national regulations. However, both old and new members of the EU have not yet reached this status as it would normally take some years to implement the background framework and such regulations within the individual country. The conference would be aimed at identifying the discrepancies and a possible way ahead.

As for signing the petition; some EDTC members were against signing it, other for, and it was thus jointly agreed in the meeting that the individual EDTC members were free to take whatever actions that they think was appropriate.


Jurg Wendling provided the following report: Since our last EDTC-meeting a year ago in Prague the project of the revision of training standards for physicians in diving and hyperbaric medicine had been actively pushed forward and a few important decision have led to the fact that we had the chance today to endorse the new version of the common standards of EDTC and ECHM.

The first step was the approval of the Training Objectives that have been carefully prepared by our past president of EDTC Professor David Elliott. Furthermore, the ECHM Executive Board has accepted that a revision should be done and that Jacek Kot together with me (Jurg Wendling) as delegates of the two organisations should prepare a draft which has to be endorsed by both committees as soon as possible. We then worked intensively, sent out the drafts in the two organisations, had e-mail feedbacks, and surprisingly there was not much opposition, no important criticism. This made it possible that during the European Congress for diving and hyperbaric medicine in Gdansk 3 weeks ago first the ECHM endorsed the developed proposal of the new standard and then the EDTC medical group has discussed and approved the same paper and recommends that EDTC members approve the Standard during this meeting.

Even if we had to accept minor deviations from what we planned originally, the EDTC medical group was more than happy with what we have achieved and we hope that the EDTC members will endorse the proposal so that it can get active the day after the decision.

The members of EDTC have been informed by e-mail two weeks before the meeting and the edited final version has been sent to the members in the last days. What are the changes compared to our first version of 1999?

1)     The training program has got much more consistent as all the topics are described in detail by the "Training Objectives",

2)     Diving medicine physicians will be trained as before in modular way, while Level I is the "Medical Examiner of Divers", more or less unchanged compared to the first version. Level II is the diving medicine physician. The course module II Diving Medicine has somehow got bigger, now being 80 hours whereas these hours may be partly web-based trainings, seminars or other forms of didactic training. At the end of the diving medicine course participants will get a diploma saying that they have passed successfully that course,

3)     The new thing however is that the doctors needed for the diving industry will need a certification of a slightly higher level called "Certificate of competence as Diving Medical Advisor". To achieve this certificate they need to have proof of more practical experience and more advanced training. As these additional training units can only exceptionally be achieved by a professional activity (for instance in Navy or a very big institution), we have decided to offer a module "Advanced professional diving medicine" which should last about a week and which should be an intensive course of practical work together with some seminars for risk analysis and dive planning for technical diving. It will also include field first aid in onsite chambers as it is sometimes necessary in saturation,

4)     The doctors further need some basic competence in occupational medicine, trauma care and emergency medicine,

5)     The certificate of competence will be limited in time so that after a period of 3-5 years recertification will be necessary.

In order to control the practical work and in order to allow individual careers with some partial experience in professional sites, we have decided to introduce a logbook which is a system in use now in most of the medical specialties in most of the countries in Europe. This logbook can be used even after the certification for the renewal, whereas all the continuous medical education points may be listed.

A few problems are still to be solved, namely the location and administration of the databank where names and identification data of the certified doctors are stored, the way how the final assessment should be performed, the Board of experts which will be responsible for approval of certification. These will be our next steps and I will inform the committee as soon as possible what we have achieved.


Some Members of EDTC, which had received copies of the proposed standard initially some weeks ago with an update only just before the meeting, were initially reluctant to endorse the new standard at such a short notice. However, after a lengthy discussion and numerous of appeals by medical members of the EDTC Committee all supporting the new standard, the members approved the document under the condition that it would be possible to propose changes and that the document will be amended as necessary.

The standard must thus be regarded as a minimum standard and a “live document” subject to revision on request from any of the parties to the document. This would not hinder any country to apply higher standards if they deem it necessary.

It was envisaged that revisions might be considered probably, every second year.


Several of the members had proposed that EDTC should be engage in drawing up diving guidelines for wind farms as current legislation in many cases did not apply to underwater work as wind farms may be outside territorial water nor covered by offshore regulations.  

Some members were of the opinion that such activities could use existing regulation (although they have no legal validity outside the 4 or 12 Nautical Mile borders) while others were of the opinion that new regulations were necessary to provide an even playing field and safeguard personnel engaged in development of wind farms.

Consequently a working part consisting of the following members were appointed:

·         Jørn Ryberg, Sweden (Industry),

·         Jane Bugler, (IMCA),

·         Palle Kristensen, Denmark (Government),

·         Chris Sherman, United Kingdom (Government)

·         Roger O’ Kane, United Kingdom (Industry)

·         Leo Lagarde, the Netherlands (Industry).

The Working Party was requested to submit their report for the next members meeting.


The Chairman of the National Regulations Committee (Claus Mayer) reported that the committee had received national regulations from some 14 countries. However, as some of the document was received almost 3 years ago, and it is known that several countries had, or were about to introduce new regulation he requested all members to resubmit their national regulations. This applied even to draft regulations.

These documents would form a basis for the 2012 conference in Brussels and it would therefore be appreciated if they could be passed on as soon as possible.

He requested that these documents be sent to himself (, the subcommittee secretary ( and Roger O’ Kane (

                                                                              Actions: All              


Please note that some of the presentations referred to below have been attached to this Minute.


a)        IMCA (Jane Bugler)

Jane Bugler advised that the following IMCA Guidelines had been issued since the last meeting:

·         IMCA D 045: Safe Use of Electricity Underwater,

·         IMCA D 046: Guidance on Operational Communication,

·         IMCA D 042: Rev. 1 Diver and ROV Concrete Mattress Installation,

·         IMCA D 003: Rev. 1 Guideline for Oxy-arc Cutting,

·         IMCA D 011: Rev. 1 Annual Auditing of Dive System

·         And that the following info notes had been issued: Info Note on Diver Gas Supply, Info Note on NDE Testing of Gas Cylinders, Info Note on Competence of Diving System Auditors.

She further advised that the following guidelines are in the process of beuing updated:

·         DESIGN D 023 & D 024 in process of finalisation,

·         Diving Supervisor Manual (IMCA D 022),

·         Acrylic Plastic Viewports,

·         Requirement for minimum quantity of gas (AODC 014),

·         NURGOD (IMCA D 034,

·         High Pressure Water Jetting (AODC 049).

She also advised that the following new documents were under development:

·         Guidance for Hyperbaric Evacuation Systems,

·         Guidance for PLC based Diving Systems (supplement to IMCA D 024),

·         Guidance on Nitrox Diving,

·         Guidance on diving in Artic Conditions.

Diving Supervisory Scheme:

·         The mutual recognition with ADAS has now been extended to include LST’s,

·         The mutual recognition with DCBC has been extended to include Diving Supervisors,

·         IMCA is working with ADAS, DCBC and SA DOL on developing a common exam question database.

Other work includes:

·         Update of competence table for diving personnel,

·         Survey on numbers of divers working in each Region,

·         Review of Diver Medic course syllabus,

·         Guidance to Marine Contractors re undertaking diving operations on their vessels (IMCA M 210),

·         Guidance on the use of simulators in training (IMCA C 014 Rev.1),

She also advised that IMCA Guidance document is now available as free downloads from the IMCA website (pdf. formats),

That a database for Common Marine Inspection Documents (CMID’s) are available from:


That the annual IMCA Marine & Diving seminar 2011 will be held in New Orleans November 9-10th 2011.


b)        Italy (Giovanni Esentato)

Giovanni Esentato handed out a CD containing the new Italian Diving Regulations (UNI Rule 11366) and advised that they had been adopted by Italy last year after some 4 years bringing together Italian Diving Contractors (AISI), UNI, the Italian Regulators Authority and representatives from the Clients such as Saipem and Snam. They have also been adopted by the Italian Coast Guard. The rules were now also available in English.

The new diving rules were structured on IMCA and EDTC Guidelines.

The Italian delegation strongly supported the work started by Claus Mayer, Pasquale Longobardi and OC Andersen towards the European Parliament represented by Mrs. Angelilli and hope that this would eventually lead to a common recognised European Standard

c)        Sweden (Staffan Littorin)

Staffan Littorin advised that new Swedish Diving Regulations had been issued by the Swedish Work Environment Authority and that it is available from:

These regulations were specific on certificate requirements covering 4 types of diving certificates, namely:

·         S 30 for SCUBA to 30msw,

·         A 40 for SCUBA to 40msw including surface supply,

·         H 30 for Hard Hat Diving to 30msw, and

·         B 50 for Hard Hat Diving to 50msw.

and on Dive Team, where minimum requirements were for a 3 man team.

d)        Norway (Olav Hauso)

Olav Hauso reported that activity levels for saturation diving was at 52.537 hours in saturation for 2010, a figure approximately averaging the activity the last few years.

There have been 2 accidents, both avoidable with better follow-up routines:

·         A load hitting a divers leg,

·         Dehydration followed by headache.

And 2 near misses:

·         Lowering of Diving Bell – hitting bottom,

·         Problems in activating the SLS (Semi Closed Bail-out System).

Activities for surface supplied diving were recorded at a low 798 man-hours in water.

He also advised that a new NORSOK Standard U-103 had been implemented covering Inshore/Onshore Diving regulations applicable for diving work on petroleum plants (including shore approaches for pipelines).

The PSA had now handed over issuing of Diving Certificates to Norsk Kompetanseregister (NKR) who would issue certificates on their behalf.

Last year some 140+ certificates were issued to candidates from the Oslo School (NYD) and perhaps 10-15 from the Government School in Berge.

PSA focus area were:

·         New vessels, new technology,

·         Control rooms and equipments (Process control/PLC System),

·         Lay-out and ergonomic (EN ISO Standard 11064),

·         Training of personnel (and in particular Operators and Technicians).


OC Andersen

OC Andersen gave a short presentation on “Seven Havila” the latest state-of-the-art Diving Support Vessel recently commissioned into the Subsea 7 fleet. A copy of the presentation has been appended to the Minute.

e)        Spain (Jordi Desola)


Reported that there were no members from Spain representing the Government or the Industry.  However 4-5 good hyperbaric centres had been established throughout Spain in the last few years.

As a result of this new safety regulations were being prepared and were expected to be implemented within the next 4-6 months. He however regretted to report that these regulations have been developed with no co-operation or consultation with the industry.

f)         Turkey (Murat Egi)

Advised that they saw increasing amount of false diving certificates and suggested that there should be a way of checking the validity across Europe.

He also advised Turkey would host a conference on Saturation Diving in March 2012 and invited interesting parties to participate. He would provide further information on request.

g)        United Kingdom (Chris Sherman)

With reference to other report advised that validity of UK issued certificates could be checked by e-mail or phone to his department. United Kingdom had chosen not to let the public have access to the computerised database due to data laws, and to protect the database from being hacked into.

He reported that the general economic situation had an effect in all sectors in the UK with training school busy but slowing down, and that the infrastructures were aging (including personnel). There was still however activities related to development of wind farms.


He further reported on 2 fatalities, one in recreational diving where a person using a Re-breather in a “try dive” dies. The other involving a shellfish diver that failed to surface after a dive.


He also reported on HSE Certificates issued and the diving school activities in the UK. These statistics had been appended to this Minute for information.


The following publications were now available:

·         HSE Research Report 735 issued,

·         Report on noise exposure to commercial divers,

·         Guidance Note DVIS 14 published,

·         Research on re-breathers (RR 871) Assessment of manual operation and emergency procedures for closed circuit re-breather (human factors and ergonomics).

These are available from; and

Diving Information Sheets from:


h)        IDSA (Alan Bax)

Alan Bax reported that IDSA established in 1982 had developed guidance handbook for provision of specialised diving training and were in the process of producing a Code of Diver training Practice.

IDSA as independent from any government or affiliation and performed audits of its members on frequent intervals. These audits were however not compulsory, but based on schools requesting an audit. 

IDSA proposed the development of Principles of an International Diving Certification Scheme.



Members commented that no financial reports had been submitted for the last few meetings.

The Secretary advised that this had been discussed in the previous days Board Meeting, and made the following account of the situation: Since taking over as Treasurer it had been problematic to correspond to the Dutch Bank (Based in Delft) and in spit of making verbal contact by phone they never responded to letter with request for payments of bills. Nor had any bank statements been received.

As a result running cost such as postage, communication etc had been carried by Acergy (now Subsea7) and that cost associated with the EDTC web page as well as some other smaller expenses had been covered the Secretary personally. This amounted to some GPB 1.000 over the years. However, the Copenhagen meeting resulted in a surplus of approximately the same amount and as a result he had received compensation for his expenses from this amount.

In the Board Meeting it had been agreed that Claus Mayer will set up a bank account with a major European Bank that would provide telebanking, and as such easier access to the account (which stands at about GPM 4000+). This may require some assistance from the Dutch delegation. Once this had been completed the Board will make up a Financial Report for review by the membership.

                                                                 Action: Claus Mayer


15.     ELECTION

The Secretary advised that as he was retiring from Subsea 7 by October 31st he was no longer able to fulfil the position of Secretary, but had agreed to compile the Minutes from this meeting.

This meant that there were 3 positions up for election in this meeting. In addition to the 2 members of the Board up for election (Claus Mayer and Jørn Ryberg), both of whom had agreed to continue on the Board; Roger O’ Kane had been nominated and agreed to serve if elected.

Consequently all 3 were elected to serve on the new Board.

During the afternoon session of the meeting the Secretary received 2 nominations for Chairman, namely for the current Chairman Claus Mayer and Jørn Rydberg.

A ballot was held and resulted in Jørn Ryberg being elected as the new Chairman.

The new Board consequently are as follows:

Chairman:            Jørn Ryberg,

Vice Chairman:      Jurg Wendling,

Member:              Jean Bugler,

Member:              Claus Mayer,

Member:              Pasquale Longobardi,

Member:              Roger O’ Kane

Post meeting note: In a teleconference held following the meeting Roger O’ Kane was nominated and accepted the position of Secretary.


The next meeting would be held in Oslo in September/October 2012 by invitation of Dag Wroldsen of IDSA. A finite date would be announced later.



The Board and Members thanked the French Delegation for an excellent arrangement for the meeting and a very pleasant dinner the night before.

And as a post meeting note: An enjoyable boat trip on Saturday.






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