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The meeting was held at Royal Danish Navy Diving School courtesy of the Royal Danish Navy and Danish Maritime Authoritie


Those present:






Claus Mayer






Jurg Wendling




Vice Chairman


Jane Bugler




Member Executive Board


JÝrn Ryberg


Sweden (Industry)


Member Executive Board


OC Andersen









Roland Vanden Eede


Belgium (Medical



Marc van der Esch


Belgium (Industry)



Palle Kristensen


Denmark (Government)



K-H. Andreasen


Denmark (Industry)



Thomas Nygaard Andersen


Denmark (Industry)


Replacing K-H. Andreasen


Henrik Allermand


Denmark (Medical)



Aleksei Usanov


Estonia (Industry)



Eric Albier


France (Government)


Representing Paul Gavarry


Jean Lelivere


France (Industry)



Frank Werner


Germany (Union)



Wolfgang Foerster


Germany (Medical)



Walter Maas


The Netherlands (Medical)



Leo Lagarde


The Netherlands (Industry)


Replacing Jeroen M. Baars


Olav Hauso


Norway  (Government)



Leif Johansen


Norway (Industry)



Jacek Kot


Poland (Medical)



Staffan Littorin


Sweden (Government)



Mats Hagberg


Sweden (Medical)



Urban Johansson


Sweden (Union)


Replacing Willy Hulthen


Murat Egi





Chris Sherman


United Kingdom (Government)



Roger OíKane


United Kingdom Industry



Alan Bax





Deric Ellerby





Mark Caney





David G. Parkes


IDRF (Canada)



Paul Butler


IDRF (Australia)








Mr. Victor Burovenko




Mr. Margo Purru





Apologies for absence had been received from:


Erling Fihl Rasmussen

Denmark (Union)


Petr Andrt


Czech Republic (Industry)

Pavel Macura


Czech Republic (Medical)

Robert van Hulst


The Netherlands (Medical)


Pasquale Longobardi


Italy (Medical)


Alf O. Brubakk


Norway (Medical)


Carlos Barosa


Portugal (Medical)


Jordi Desola


Spain (Medical)


Marin Ruegger


Switzerland (Government)


Cengiz Erenoglu




Akin Savas Toklu




S. J. Watt


United Kingdom (Medical)



Post meeting Note: Following the meeting the Secretary has been notified that Mr. Willy Hulthen, the former Union members representing Sweden have passed away.



The meeting was opened by a welcome address made by Palle Kristensen as the principle host for the meeting.

The welcome address was followed by a presentation of the Royal Danish Diving School, the sites history and by site security information.

Then the Chairman welcomed all members and guest to the Copenhagen EDTC Meeting 2009 with the wish of a successful meeting.


Apologies had been received as stated above.


There were comments to the Minutes from the Ravenna meeting para 7.4, which will be reworded according to the request. The remaining of the Minutes was approved as is.


The Secretary presented the following changes to the membership since the last meeting:


∑      Clemens Mader, Austria (Medical)

∑      Jeroen M. Baars, The Netherlands (Industry)

∑      Benno Schenk, Switzerland (Industry)

∑      Willy Hulthen, Sweden (Union)

New members:

∑        Ulrike Preiml, Austria (Medical). See Note below:

∑        Aleksei Usanov, Estonia (Industry)

∑        Thomas Nygaard Andersen, Denmark (Industry)

∑        Leo Lagarde, The Netherlands (Industry)

∑        Krzystof Stopierzynski, Poland (Industry) Still to be confirmed.

∑        Urban Johansson, Sweden (Union)

Note: Dr. Preiml was nominated by her predecessor; however EDTC was later advised by the Austrian Authorities that Dr. Roswitha Prohaska will be the new medical representative from Austria.

Further to previous discussion regarding membership the Secretary advised that he had received no replies from 5 members, some of which had not participated in any meetings at all, others which had not been to a meeting for more than 10 year. He therefore suggested that they be stricken from the membership list. This matter had been discussed in the Executive Board Meeting the previous day and it had been decided to request the Government Representative from these countries to bring the matter to a conclusion.

Absent members include:

∑        Belgium,

∑        Finland

∑        The Netherlands

∑        United Kingdom

The Government Representatives could be able to obtain name and known address on the individuals from the Secretary.

                                                        Action: Government Representatives

The Secretary also reported that he had not had any response from Lithuania as advised by the former Chairman during the Ravenna meeting.



The following actions were recorded from previous meetings. Status of those is as follows:










Revision of Safety Guidelines.


See separate item on the agenda.




Members profile


The Secretary advised that up to now only about 15 profiles had been received and urgent members to complete the templates issued. Those that had lost or not received the template could request another copy.




Workshop in Luxemburg 2010


See status report under item 7 of the Minutes.




Invitation to be sent to the Chairman of ECHM to join EDTC.


An invitation had been sent. Also a number of e-mails had been sent inviting ECHM to attend the Copenhagen Meeting, but no response had been received.




Exclusion of member not participating or responding to communication.


See item 5 above.




Continuous cooperation with ECHM on standards


Being pursued by Jurg Wendling and Jacek Kot



The Secretary also reported that a proposal for a new layout of the EDTC Internet page had been made by Akin Savas Toklu (Turkey) and was now available on the following address:


The Secretary had noted some minor correction and would communicate these to Mr. Toklu. All members were invited to visit and the view the page and pass any comments they may had to the Secretary. Any such comments need to be with the Secretary by the end of December this year as it is the intention to replace the current Internet side with the new effective early in 2010.

                                                                                Action: EDTC Members


The Workshop Committee held a meeting in Malmoe, Sweden in the spring of 2009 and in a report to the Executive Board proposed that the workshop be held in Brussels, Belgium simply because this is were EU conducts most of its meetings, but also because it was easily accessible by low cost carriers from most parts of Europe. .

The Executive Board had discussed the report and ha proposed the following:

∑        Topic of the workshop would be inland/onshore diving and the freedom of movement of workers within the EU,

∑        EDTC should aim at a participation of between 100 and 150 participants,

∑        EDTC would charge a nominal fee for participation to cover costs only,

∑        Inland/onshore diving companies should be given the opportunity of having a small stand presenting their services,

∑        The Chairman would approach Mrs. Angelilli (who have been re-elected to the EU Commission and now serve as one of 12 Vice Precedents) for support,

∑        EDTC would investigate the possibility of arranging the workshop at a EU venue, but if this precluded the participation of exhibitors, the possibility of holding it at a central Brussels hotel would be considered,

∑        EDTC would look into the possibility of having two parallel sessions. Topic for one session would be a presentation of the result of the National Regulation Project, the other a medical session.

The Chairman advised that he had received a message from Mrs. Angelilli through Pasquale Longobardi saying she would host a meeting in 2010 as long as it was not in April 2010.

The Chairman would seek a meeting with Mrs. Angelilli as early as possible in order to discuss the plans further. Planning by the workshop committee would proceed in the meantime aiming at arranging such a conference in the spring of 2010 (Post meeting note: The meeting with Mrs. Angelilli have not yet taken place and it is thus more realistic that the workshop will be in the latter part of 2010.              

                                                                                    Action; Workshop Members


The Chairman advised that as he had spent most of last year in China he had been prevented from working actively with the National Regulations Project. However, the other members in the committee had been active and would present the status under agenda item 10.

He further advised that as there were no diving regulations where he was working in China he had presented the EDTC standard to the Chinese and that they had been adopted for use on the diving project in which he was involved.


After reporting the difficulties to get into cooperation with the European Committee for Hyperbaric Medicine (ECHM) and accepting the wish of last years EDTC committee to the try to find a solution with Jacek Kot, the representative of ECHM (and new EDTC medical member), it was reported that a first step into the right direction could be achieved. ECHM had decided to officially create task force with the aim to restart the joint medical subcommittee later, in order to achieve finally a new revised common standard for medical training in diving AND hyperbaric medicine. This task force (composed of Jordi Desola, David Elliott, Alessandro Marroni, Willi Welslau, Jacek Kot, Pasquale Longobardi and JŁrg Wendling) had a first meeting immediately before the medical subcommittee of EDTCmed in Aberdeen a few weeks previously. The participants of this meeting concluded that the medical training standards of 1997/99 should be the basis for a further revision, being aware that recreational and professional diving medicine has many things in common; however the big part of general diving medicine was also necessary for training in clinical hyperbaric medicine. The second conclusion was that a revised list of topics had to be elaborated with more prťcised training objectives for the various training modules (David Elliott volunteered to prepare this for working divers and Willy Welslau would do that for hyperbaric medical doctors (including recreational diving medical advisors). Having done this, it should be possible to start to define the common basic module for the two specialising training directions; however this would probably take a lot of time. Realistically a credible basis for a restart of the joint medical subcommittee would be in one or two yearís time.

It was reported that the EDTCmed corresponding members gave positive input, appreciate the consensus work and they were ready to give the EDTCmed Committee input either from their experience, or for being in compatibility in future years. Peter Bennett representing the Underwater and Hyperbaric Medical Society of the USA gave the EDTCmed Committee information about the US practice and welcome our activities in so far as he would try to spread the information in the relevant circles in the US.

The Committee discussed a few points that would be part of the revision of training standards, however concerning medical advisors of working divers and so not concern of controversial debates with the hyperbaric medicine delegates:

a)       What additional proofs would a candidate for a "Certificate of competence as Diving Medical Advisor" need after having obtained a "Diploma of Diving Medical Advisors" course (Level IIa)?

- Some experience in treatment of diving accidents. Of course in first line this concerns decompression injuries, however many combined and non-decompression related accidents happen and are as important for the doctor. We agreed that the candidate should write all supervised activities down in a log book and that, when it comes to apply for the certificate of competence he should have some "logged experience in management of diving accidents" (which means that some experience must be real, part of it may be scenarios or simulations, as the number of diving accidents is fortunately very low). The supervisor must be responsible for an adequate distribution and an evaluation score weighting the various alternative elements could be a good tool.

- Occupational medicine: The candidate must have some certified minimal experience in relevant aspects of occupational medicine. The list of relevant elements will be prepared for our next meeting.

- Assessment of working divers: Each candidate should have some experience in assessing divers, in particular after diving accidents or in difficult situations. The group proposes "10 in-depth assessments of working divers including some resume diving assessments" as a minimum, written down in a log book and audited by a supervisor or examination board.

b)      Who should certify the diving medical advisors?: There was a consensus that certification should be based on national structures. So our standards should give the guidelines while the precise conditions should be "as determined by the national EDTC delegates". Of course, if ECHM agrees to keep the national coordinator for these purposes per nation, then it would be a national coordinator. Best would be to have this one linked to a national Governmental Authority, University board, or if not available: a national professional Board.

c)       Expert competency: There was an evident need for acknowledged experts responsible consultants for diving medicine. A combined title Diving and Hyperbaric Medicine was not really realistic; however these two competencies must be equivalent, for some expertís maybe a simultaneous or double qualification. Proposed that we should create a "Board of Consultants" as an autonomous body, who would evaluate the candidates, eventually give proposals for additional upgrading activities and finally accept the candidate as a new member of the board. As the board would be autonomous, it would decide on consensus and this enables a reasonable growth of the number not exceeding what is necessary and not diluting the quality of that expert level. The board will not |represent EDTC or any other formal organisation.

So the group of EDTC medical delegates remained active, although the majority of delegates were unfortunately not able to participate to all the general meetings. Participation to our "subcommittee" workshops was excellent (50 - 75% generally participate), so that the achieved consensus was credible. The Committee would continue itís discussions of pure working diverís related affairs and would wait for the task force ECHM to give them a signal for a joint medical subcommittee in the future.



Mark van Esch gave the following report on behalf of the National Regulation Project.

The project group have had two meetings, the first in Stockholm, Sweden in June 2008, the second meeting in Grenoble, France in January 2009.

In the second meeting a change of objective and method had been adopted and the development of a basic model risk assessment implemented.

The project group had been successful in obtaining 14 national regulations and had also been trying to obtain fund for translation into a common language. However, the project group was still missing national regulations from some member countries and invited the members to provide copies of their regulations.

                                                                                Action: Member Countries

The project group was also working on a presentation of acceptable certificates as many countries would only accept nationally endorsed certificates from other countries. However, a problem also appeared to be mastering of (a common) languages. The list referred to above would be modelled on the list published by the Health & Safety Executives in the United Kingdom.


Please note that the majority of the presentations referred to below have been attached to this Minute.


a)             Estonia (Aleksei Usanov)

Aleksei Usanov advised that there were about 10 commercial diving in Estonia. Typically these will employed between 3 and 15 professional divers, with GT Project AS (GT Corporation) being by fare the largest of them all.  Most underwater work in Estonia was associated with building and maintaining the main ports, of which there were 5, as well as some smaller ferry ports. Some work was also performed in association with ship inspections and maintenance. GT Project AS also operates in other of the Baltic countries, in the Balkan and the Caspian Sea.

Work was in progress to align labour regulations, medical services, technical regulations, safety and education to applicable EC codes and standards.


b)             Norway (Olav Hauso)

Olav Hauso advised that a long term diver medical follow-up study have been initiated by OLF together with IMCA. The study was based on questionnaires (initial and annual), and the data is anonymous. Hauso presented a slide showing an overview of the totality of health follow up elements. Besides the OLF/IMCA initiative, he pointed at the annual medical control of the diverís health and the 3 yearly follow up that is a continuation of a similar activity which has been in place for some contracts in the Norwegian sector for some 10-12 years. An important element as well is the collection of activity data that would enable research projects to be done.

The ownership of all the data was with each individual diver, but he was expected to bring it along when he started employment with a new employer. The data was confidential and was only available to medical personnel.

Hauso went on to advice that a judgment by the court case between a group of so called Ēpioneer diversď (1970-1990) and the Norwegian Government as reported previously was expected at the High Court within the next few weeks. (Post meeting remark: The Norwegian Supreme Court has since the meeting took place ruled against the divers.)

He then presented a number of slides presenting the volume of international deep diving to various depths versus Norwegian diving, showing that Norwegian diving was just a minor part of the total figure.


c)             Poland (Jacek Kot)

Jacek Kot advised that new Polish diving regulation based on the French diving regulations had been issued for use. However, many of the parties involved in diving were very unhappy with the new regulations and they were now subject for a court case. A ruling was expected within a year and it was also expected that some aspects of the regulation would be changed.

He also advised that the Association of Polish Professional Divers whished to become a member of the EDTC. The Secretary advised that he had received an application and that the application had been approved by the Executive Board. The Secretary would consequently write to the association confirming their membership as soon as Jacek Kot could confirm the name and address of their nominated representative.

The chairman explained that there are some problems coming up with the certification of polish divers in Germany. Therefore he asked for the papers for Diver Training Standards in Poland, Diver Certification and for the Health and Safety Regulations.

                                                                    Action: Jacek Kot/Secretary

d)             Turkey (Murat Egi)

Murat Egi advised that a change in Turkish Regulations now allowed a cross-over from Sport Diving Instructor to Commercial SCUBA Diver. He also advised that there were two new commercial diving schools in Turkey, namely Mustafa Kemal University (2 year college) and the Bosporus Commercial Diving School. The latter was the first non-governmental commercial diving school and was set up as an affiliate to the Ministry of Education.

An electronic system for managing, controlling and recording dives was also presented. The system including manual, logs, checklists and risk assessments and was thus paper free.

He also advised that new Turkish diving regulations had been issued. These required a doctor to be on site for dives deeper than 40 msw.

These regulations were also the subject of a court case. Turkey would have them translated into English, but only when the court case had been concluded. A copy would then be submitted to EDTC for inclusion in the Internet site.

                                                                    Action: Turkish Delegation

e)             United Kingdom (Chris Sherman)

Chris Sherman advised that the list of approved qualifications had been updated. He also advised that that the Approve Code of Practices (ACOPís) were now available as .pdf load downs from the Health & Safety Executive Internet site.

The HSE currently had 3 research projects running, namely:

∑        Diving helmet noise research,

∑        Differential pressure hazards,

∑        Human factors & re-breather emergency drills.

The latter as a result of an unacceptable fatality rate in recreational diving using rebreather equipment.

f)              IMCA (Jane Bugler)

Jane Bugler advised that the following guidelines are in the process of updating

∑           DESIGN (D011, D023, D024),

∑           Diving Supervisor Manual (D022),

∑           Safe use of electricity underwater (AODC 035),

∑           Protection of Water Intake Points for diver safety (AODC 055),

∑           NURGOD (IMCA 034),

∑           Oxy-arc cutting operations and

∑           High Pressure Water Jetting (AODC 049).

A review of examination papers for the Diving Supervisor Scheme was also being conducted. A full time certification Administrator was also now in place.

Mutual recognition with ADAS was to be extended to include Life Support technicians (LST) and the mutual recognition with DCBC had been extended to include Bell Diving Supervisors.

The following new guidance documents were under development:

∑           Isolation and barriers for safe diver intervention,

∑           Guidance for hyperbaric evacuation systems.

There was also development in progress for monitoring diverís long term health effects as reported by Olav Hauso.

g)             ADC (Roger OíKane)

Roger OíKane advised on a project to develop a new Guidance Protocol for isolation of machinery when diving in close proximity to merchant vessel. Some copies of the Guidance Protocol were made available, however, if anyone requires additional copies they could be obtained from him, alternatively the Secretary.

h)             Canada (David Parkes)

The Diver Certification Board of Canada (DCBC) has been in operation since 2003 and provided a national certification regime for occupational diving personnel, in order to enhance industry safety by demonstrating personal competency.  DCBC certification was based on a Canadian National Competency Standard developed by the Canadian Standards Association. Up to now some 2500 certificates has been issued.

Certificates issued were renewable every 5 years and may cover for many jurisdictions.


i)               Australia (ADAS) & IDRF (Paul Butler)

The Australian Divers Accreditation Scheme (ADAS) was the Australian national occupational diver certification scheme operating through a Board under oversight of the Federal government. An ADAS certificate was required for all occupational diving except recreational at work. To date some 8400 Diver, Dive Supervisor etc had been certified under the scheme.

14 Diver Training Establishment were current accredited under the ADAS scheme. The scheme had recently been expanded to include: ROV operators, Chamber Tunnel Operators, Chamber Lock Operators, Clinical Chamber Operators, Firs Aid, Construction Induction and ALST/LST

IDRF was a voluntary group of diving regulators and certifying agencies. Current membership consisted of: Australia, Canada, France, Norway, South Africa and United Kingdom. Members had agreed to work together towards mutual recognition and to identify and implement best practice in diver training with the objective of harmonising cross border diver training standards outside Europe.

Work performed to date included a detailed comparison between the Australian Diver Accreditation Scheme (ADAS) and the Diver Certification Board of Canada (DCBC). A similar study comparing all members standard and the EDTC standards was in progress. The purpose of this was clearly identify what the members required from the other in order to accept their qualification.

The long term objective was however to move the standard towards each other with the ultimate goal of achieving mutual recognition.

IDRF was currently looking into certification with improved security to reduce the problems associated with forged certificates and log book entries.

j)               IDSA (Alan Bax)

IDSA was created in 1982 with the purpose of both improving the quality and safety of Diver Training and of developing an International system for the recognition of Diver Training Schools and Qualifications.

To be accepted by IDSA, schools had either to be recognised by their National Diver Training Programme or, where no National Programme existed, complete an IDSA Audit successfully.  The qualification cards issued by accepted schools would be interchangeable between countries; this would not only greatly simplify the movement of divers across borders, but also minimise the need for each country to produce a long, complex list of the non-National qualifications it would recognise.

It would also permit a more cost effective method for the continuation of Diver Training.  Not all countries needed to train divers to all diving standards. Many countries would only wish to train to basic SCUBA & Surface Supplied Standards as they had no requirement for more advanced training.  Divers wishing to progress, having completed a basic course in their own country, would be able to continue their training at an IDSA School in another country, taking into account the difficulties of language; several successful courses had been carried out by IDSA Schools using an interpreter.

Standard basic courses would provide the basis of a diver training pyramid which would ensure that all divers would have a reasonable opportunity to progress.  They would also provide those Schools running advanced courses with the maximum choice of students which would enable them to achieve the highest quality.

IDSA members believed that the IDSA training Standards achieve the Goal Setting targets set out in the EDTC Personnel Competence Standards (PCS), and consider much could be achieved by close and effective collaboration in the future.

Alan Bax appealed to EDTC to work with IDSA. See also the Chairmanís comments under any other business.

k)            Denmark (Palle Kristensen)

Palle Kristensen advised that Denmark was currently revising their diving regulations and that he hoped to be able to present it for the next EDTC Meeting. The new standard would be aligned with the EDTC Standards and would raise the requirements for risk assessments. The new regulation also aimed to be made applicable for wind farms where installation up to know ha been under the offshore diving regulations while routine maintenance had been unregulated.



The Secretary advised that three candidates had been proposed for election for the two seats on the Board due for election. The nominees were:

∑           Roland Vanden Eede, Belgium (Medical)

∑           Jurg Wendling, Switzerland (Medical),

∑           OC Andersen, Norway (Industry).

However, before an election was kicked off Roland Vanden Eede announced that he withdrew his candidature; consequently the two present members of the Executive Board Jurg Wendling and OC Andersen were re-elected for a further 3 years.

The Secretary was reminded that the membership had agreed in the Ravenna meeting that when calling for an election he would advice if the current incumbent was prepared to stand for a further period. This would be done for further elections.



The Chairman made references to a diving course run by an IDSA member in Austria where German students had attended in the believe that this would qualify them for diving work in Germany. As the course was accepted, but not formally endorsed by Austrian Authorities, the resulting IDSA certificate was not acceptable in Germany. According to the German state regulations the training takes two years. Therefore the IDSA certificate is not accepted. In the beginning of 2009 we have been informed by a lawyer from Vienna that an Austrian Diver with an IDSA certificate was not accepted by HSE UK. The reason was that the course was accepted, but not formally endorsed by Austrian Authorities. Therefore there was no reason for the company in UK to except the paper.

The Chairman therefore requested IDSA to ensure that the limits in an IDSA certificate was clearly explained to candidates before any course started.


The Chairman advised that he had been in touch with Petr Andrt of the Czech Republic who had confirmed that it was still the intention of arranging next years meeting in the Czech Republic, probably in Prague.

The Secretary was requested to agree a date, preferably in September 2010, and notify the membership at the earliest opportunity.

Post meeting note: It has now been confirmed that the next meeting will held on September 9th and 10th in Prague.

                                                                                Action: Secretary

The French Delegation then advised that they would like to be hosts for the 2011 meeting, and that would most probably be held in Marseille.




A warm thanks was given to Lt. Cdr. Tummas Sjurdaberg of the Royal Danish Navy for assistance and for showing the EDTC Members around at the Diving School.

Also thanks were given to the following for sponsoring the meeting:






Dykkerfirmaernes Brancheforening (Association of Diving Contractors)


Mr. Philip Nathansen


EA Dykker Service ApS


Mr. Erik Andersson


JD-Contractors A/S


Mr. Gert Normann


JH Teknik


Mr. JÝrgen Hansen


Marine Contractors


Mr. Henrik Jensen


Nordic Marine Service A/S


Mr. Frans Larsen


Offshore Oil and Gas Operators, Denmark


Mr. Ole Sidelman JÝrgensen





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